Scoutmaster handbook insignia guide

I checked and there is no specific mentioning of this in any of the BSA guidelines that I checked. Jun 19, - Fabel Konicke My son returned from Camp Geronimo with a whole bag of badges and rings I don't know what to do with them? Anyway - Any help is appreciated.

Jun 20, - Scouted Paul Fabel - best thing to do in your case is have your scout ask his scoutmaster where the patches go. There is probably a patch scheme document from the camp that explains where they go and you might even find that on the camps website, of they have one. Dec 21, - Eli Where do the fireman chit, totin chip, and cyber chip go on the uniform?

Dec 21, - Scouter Paul Eli - They are all 'temporary' patches and one at a time can be displayed centered on the right pocket. Dec 26, - Lisa Would I wear a scout uniform to a boy scout camp interview? Dec 27, - Scouter Paul Lisa - If you're a registered BSA member, then it sounds like a good idea to wear your uniform for the interview. Apr 11, - Larry Cox Hi! I'm 62, a Eagle, and returning to Scouting to assist my 2 older grandsons in their troop and 2 younger ones still in Cubs.

Silly question, but I don't remember if we wore a colored tee under our uniform. I'm now nearly blind Is it any different for adults? And as a foot note And it's awesome!! I was taught to lead by example. Apr 13, - Scouter Paul Larry - you can wear another layer under your uniform shirt if you want.

It's not part of the uniform, but is useful when outdoors in cooler weather, or just for comfort. Our troop doesn't wear or require a neckerchief's with the uniform which makes certain tees, well With no guidance the boys tend to go for any tee, often their brightest neon colors from their dresser, which keeps them warmer and more comfortable wearing a tee, but looks yucky Of course easiest answer is to just wear neckerchiefs which hides the tees, so hopefully the troop will reconsider one day!

I currently have two brothers in my troop who in my opinion are lazy, they refuse to wear shoes to the troop meetings and wear white socks with flip flops and on uniform inspection night they wear black shocks and black Nike type shower slip on flip slops, whats more they cannot participate in troop games or activities when we climb a lashing tower.

Thanks and look forward to your email -Scouty Ed- Troop But, there is no requirement that scouts wear uniforms in order to be BSA members. When adult volunteers start making up rules for scouts, it tends to not work out well. If their lack of appropriate footwear causes their patrols to perform poorly in contests with other patrols, then maybe their patrolmates would encourage them to change. For example, some simple recognition for the patrol with the highest percentage of scouts climbing the tower or participating in the game - their patrol could never get it without them participating.

Or, maybe there is some other reason besides laziness why they wear what they wear. A caring adult volunteer might try to find out the reason. No other comment I ran across covered a subject like this and I'm wondering why admin left this on the thread. My point is, does this thread have an admin who removes posts that aren't relevant? If someone has a view or comment, and it is related to the page content and is not inflammatory, then it does no harm.

I try to weed out off-topic, meaningless, or inappropriate comments. I'm getting ready to finish up her uniform and want to make sure I'm putting the items on the left sleeve correctly.

I can't find anywhere that shows the red Founder bar. Is it supposed to be touching the troop numerals? Also, her shirt is one of the microfiber ones with a "cuff" of sorts around the bottom of the sleeve. There doesn't really appear to be room for her council patch, the troop numbers, the Founder bar, her position patch, and her Trained patch. Can the Trained patch go on top of the "cuff" part?

Mar 02, - Wife My husband wants me to sew his Eagle Scout patch onto his jean jacket. Is this appropriate? If so, where is the proper placement?

He is not involved in a troop anymore. He just wants to wear the patch. Thank you for feedback. The Trained patch can be sewn on the cuff part. It hasn't been awarded to him so do I have to buy it? Also, where should it go?

There are no set requirements for earning it, so it is up to the scout's troop to decide how to earn it. And, anyone can purchase it from the Scout Shop. If your scout is interested in earning it, he should ask his Scoutmaster what requirements the troop has for earning it.

Scout On! These both appear to be official sources but they clearly contradict each other. Apr 24, - Scouter Paul Ken - Both those docs, as well as any other I've seen, say "centered" on left pocket. I believe the placement in the images you referenced is only the artist's interpretation of 'centered'. Some shirt pockets are now flat, rather than pointed. Some are billowed, rather than sewn flat. So, the exact vertical center is different on different pocket types.

Centering the patch in the available horizontal and vertical space is the goal. Apr 24, - Ken Scouter Paul, thanks for the speedy response and good info! Now my son a 4th generation Scout will be "official" for his first Troop campout this weekend! Apr 24, - Ken Scouter Paul, I looked at these again, and in both instances the pocket is the same, but the patch is positioned differently.

If Scouts BSA has an official position on the position, they should depict that in all official materials. I understand that pockets have changed, but in this instance Scouts BSA specifically demonstrates two different ways to vertically "center" the patch on the same pocket. I will make a judgment call so that my son can wear his rank, but Scouts BSA can't expect an exacting result quite in accordance with it's unexacting instruction. Centered between the top and bottom of the pocket would result in the flap overlapping the rank on a "square" pocket.

The official guide to insignia and the inspection sheet depict the same pocket but with the rank insignia in different positions, one centered between the flap tip and the bottom, and one just below.

I stand by the notation Scouts BSA is disseminating conflicting information. Thanks for your work on this question, but it appears we get to pick individually what it means since vertical centering isn't even well defined by official Scouts BSA rules and literature. But just to be clear, am I to take away that we can't trust the official Scouts BSA insignia rules and guidelines and instruction sheets, nor the inspection sheets, since they are just "artist's interpretations?

Apr 24, - Scouter Paul Ken - Using your judgment is a good idea. Center the patch as best you can, and I believe it will be fine. You are innocent! I am frustrated that Scouts BSA would issue a regulation for patch placement showing where to put it and then provide an inspection sheet that gigs every Scout who followed the regulation.

I will contact them and ask for standardization on direction. Thanks, Scouter Paul! Your website is priceless to me! I'll contact them. Oct 11, - Jane Jen - "Effective Oct. In the past, guidelines have simply stated the uniform wearer should be neat in appearance. Neatness includes tucking in the shirt or blouse.

This update will appear in related resources, such as the uniform inspection sheets, as they are revised and printed. Oct 19, - Heather Cullen My son is the troops bugler.

Where does this BIG bugler patch go? Oct 19, - Scouter Paul The 3-inch diameter bugler patch goes in the badge of office spot also referred to as 'position 3' - see the Insignia Guide. To all out there that a all up in arms about centering. Get a grip. Pick the vertical center, make it look good up and down a let your son go to the meeting, outing, ceremony or whatever. Scouting is about building Youth to be good citzens and ready to face the world.

Not to get them ready to be in the Russian Army. Relax Ken. Headquarters has enough to worry about concerning banktrupcy, gender equality, two adults in every tent, shoes or slippers really? Make them do a 10 mile hike on a super rock trail.

Oct 29, - Richard Wilson I understand it is important to be prepared and dress accordingly based on weather conditions. I cannot find any information with regards to this question, any info is greatly appreciated. Oct 29, - Scouter Paul Richard - No, there is no such rule or guideline. I feel very sorry to him soooo much for two big reasons : 1. He was preparing himself to this step a lot. And being his mother, I tell you it meant to him very much.

I was excited for him also that power of belief he had. And reason number 2. I feel horrible because I have not provided him with the right things I should. Anyway , please educate me at this point. Thanks a lot. Dec 06, - Navybone The BoR cannot fail a scout for an uniform item. See scouting. I was rather shocked by the uniform standard at such a prestigious event As a former ASM to a troop of high standards and the wife and stepmother of Eagles scouts, I was disappointed to see such a drop in standards.

Even the Scoutmaster was wearing jeans as she officiated the CoH does that speak volumes? Her son was one to attain Eagle and at the end of the ceremony she announced she was stepping down as SM. I bloater bumped into the new SM and was glad to see he was at least wearing the green pants. I asked him about the neckerchiefs and he said they were now optional and the troop voted not to wear them. Even for class A occasions.

Likewise for the pants, green were optional, jeans were acceptable even for class A. Is this the new BSA standard or is it just that troops?! Does anyone else think this is a terrible drop in standards? Thank you. Jan 05, - John Richard, Down here in Florida, shorts are very common year-round.

Scout or green close color shorts are pretty much what my Troop of 25 wears year-round. Jan 05, - John Ruth, My Troop hasn't had a neckerchief for years.

As a Scout-run organization, the Troop decided that they didn't want to have them several years ago before my oldest joined and every so often they have another vote. And, as far as I can tell, that's perfectly permitted. In the area SW Florida , I'd say less than half don't have neckerchiefs. A new Scoutmaster needs to be trained but that training needs to be supplemented by your own reading and study. You need to know confidently what is and what is not good Scouting. Troops develop their way of doing things over time.

If you find that you are not following policy, change your practice. More about that tomorrow. I encourage you to study, to learn, and to apply your knowledge. Be courageous enough to change your mind when you learn something new. Scout Handbook — Get your own copy 12th edition and get to know the handbook. You can teach yourself a great deal by just reading the handbook it is remarkable that many Scoutmasters have not actually read the Scout handbook. Read it carefully.

Guide to Advancement — Look at the relevant sections dealing with Scout advancement and read them carefully. Uniform and Insignia Guide — Answers a lot of nitpicking questions that can actually develop into real problems There are two basic proper patch placement problem people; people placing patches improperly and people policing improper patch placement painfully — be neither.

Other Sources: Online Information — If it is not an official Boy Scouts of America publication or online resource it is not an authoritative source of information. Clarke has worked with thousands of Scouts and Scouters as a director at his local Scout Camp Camp Horseshoe , and as a Scoutmaster for 30 years. He is the recipient of a number of awards recognizing his service to Scouting, including the B. He is author of the blog and podcast at Scoutmastercg. An avid outdoorsman and amateur actor, he lives in Kennett Square, Pennsylvania with his wife Teddi.

I really tried to use the Scoutmaster Handbook for reference and advice, but could not get much useful out of it. Yes, you should have one and read through it, but it is missing some important stuff, like a list of the duties of a Scoutmaster.